|Jean Pascal "On The Ropes" Interview: On his Injury, Tavoris Cloud, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins, Steroids in Boxing & much more...
By Jenna Jay, OnTheRopes Boxing Radio, Doghouse Boxing (July 28, 2012) Doghouse Boxing
Interview by Jenna J. In my latest edition of "On The Ropes" boxing radio, I had a chance
to catch up with WBC Light Heavyweight champion Jean Pascal (26-2-1,
16KOs) who was set to fight Tavoris Cloud on August 11th, but had to
pull out due to a injured right hand. Jean touched on a variety of
topics including the injury, postponement, his on the light heavyweight
division, Ward-Pascal, steroids in boxing & much, much more. Here is
what he had to say.
Jenna: There’s been a latest development in
your upcoming fight with Tavoris Cloud, you were supposed to fight him
on August 11th, you sustained a hand injury to your right hand, can you
tell your fans a little bit about what happened?
Pascal :The thing happened 6 weeks ago, maybe
8 weeks ago. I was sparring; I was doing easy, light sparring. I threw
a punch with my right hand, I felt something. It wasn’t that bad when
it happened, but then I went to see the doctor, and my hand and
everything was feeling really, really fragile and really, really
sensitive. We thought that maybe, after like 2-3 weeks, that it would
be fine, but every week my hands were still painful, and now we’re only 2
weeks away from the fight and I can’t take any chance to walk into that
fight with one arm/one hand. So that’s why we decided to postpone the
How tough was it for you to make that decision? How tough was it for you to say ‘Alright, I have to postpone the fight’?
It was really, really, really tough. I waited until the last, last
second. I was telling my promoter, my doctor, and my coaches that the
only way I don't fight is if you cut off my leg. But at the end of the
day, I thought about it and I said ‘I’m not healthy enough to fight
Tavoris Cloud, and I need my both hands, I need to be healthy, because
Tavoris Cloud is a tough fighter, he’s a great champion. So If I go out
there and I know that my hands are not 100% correct, then it’d be too
risky for me.
Jenna: What working dates are you having for the fight, when do you actually think you’ll get into the ring with Tavoris Cloud?
Pascal: Honestly, I really don’t know. The doctor said I had to rest for a
month, and I can’t use my right hand for a month, but my promoter was
telling me it maybe October 13th, but I don’t know for sure if I’ll be
able to fight at that date. So right now they’re trying to find a date,
trying to work something out.
Jenna: Now Jean, you have already been out
of the ring for 14 months, and now you’re going to have at least an
additional couple of months, do you ever think that with all that time
out of the ring, that you will show ring rust, no matter how much you’ve
Pascal: Honestly, I don’t know, and I don’t
want to think about that. I’m a professional, and I’ve been doing this
(boxing) for 18 years. Of course this is the first time that I have
gotten away from the ring that long, but I was still in the gym I was
still training really hard. But of course there will be a little bit
ware in the first two rounds, but I don’t think I’m going to suffer ring
rust because I was feeling great in this training camp. My skills were
there, my reflexes were there and I was ready to go. It’s only my hand
Jenna: Besides being fully healthy when you
face Tavoris Cloud, do you think you can gain anything else by having a
little more time to prepare and study?
Pascal: Everything happens for a reason, I guess, so I’m going to have extra
time to get ready, and like that – I’m not going to have any excuses if
anything happens. Obviously, I want to go there fully prepared because I
told Cloud to bring his A-game, and that’s what I want to bring, also.
The night of the fight, I want to bring my A+ game. So right now I'm
going to stay in the gym and just slow down the training a little bit,
not use my hands, and stay in shape, so whenever they have a date, I
will be ready.
Jenna: What do you see in Tavoris Cloud as a fighter?
Pascal: Cloud is hungry, and that is the most dangerous tool he has right now
against me, because he is hungry and he wants to make his name on me.
It’s a good tool against me, because he knows that if he beats he will
reach the next level, he is going to reach elite fighter, he is going
reach the millions and everything, so I know he is going to be ready but
I don’t think that’s going to happen unfortunately for him, and I am
going to be two time world champion.
Jenna: Jean, your last defeat obviously in a
rematch against Bernard Hopkins, and one of the times we interviewed
you, you said you learned a lot from that fight, what kind of experience
do you expect to take a fight with Tavoris Cloud?
Pascal: I did 24 rounds with Bernard Hopkins,
11 rounds with Chad Dawson; I am not a prospect anymore. I am not
green, and since my last defeat, I have worked harder than ever before,
this is only progression, victory is in my future. Like I said before,
this fight is for the fans and I am more determined than ever to win
Jenna: What will it mean to you to regain a championship at LHW?
Pascal: It means a lot, you know, it's my future. If I win this fight it will
restate what everybody already knows, that I am a champion, this fight
is very critical, so all my intention and focus is on Cloud right now.
Jenna: Jean, quite a lot has happened since
we last had you on the show. Bernard Hopkins lost his title to Chad
Dawson, a man you’ve already beat. What were your thoughts on that
Pascal: I think that was a good fight. Bernard was
made for Dawson, and Dawson is a skilled south paw boxer. Dawson was
really a bad style for Bernard, so I think it was a good match up for
Dawson, but I know for sure if I have to fight Dawson again, I am still
going to be the winner, but right now my focus is on Tavoris Cloud.
Jenna: You mention your focus is on Tavoris
Cloud, but what are your thoughts about Chad Dawson’s upcoming fight in
September, he’ll be facing off against SMW champ Andre Ward.
Pascal: The fight should be a blockbuster, that’s two great
fighters at their prime, I am really proud of them, that they have taken
that fight, because the fans want to see the best versus the best, and
they are two champions, two great champions, and may the best man win.
Jenna: Back to Bernard Hopkins, he is 47 now;
do you think he should continue to fight? If he does do you think he
has anything to prove?
Pascal: If I am
Bernard, if Bernard was to win a fight, I would have a problem with
that, this is the body, and this is the brain. But I suggest to Bernard
in his next fight he should take the test, because it’s going to prove
to the rest of the world that he is a clean fighter, and we’re in a
clean fight, because I don’t understand why a legend declined to take a
drug test to show the world that he is clean, and he has nothing to
hide. When you don’t have anything to hide you take the test, so that’s
why I am so proud about Tavoris Cloud, that he is taking the test. He
says I am clean, and I have no problem, and I am going to show the world
I am a clean fighter, and we’re in a clean sport.
Jenna: You bring up something interesting,
that’s a hot topic going on in boxing today, steroid in boxing. Antonio
Tarver recently tested positive, and other noteworthy fighters have
tested positive, what do you think about the steroid problem we seem to
have in our sport?
Pascal: Right now, I don’t know if I have anything much to say
about all of this, but I think that boxing is a clean sport, we are
clean fighters, and for the business of this sport we should all take
the test before the fight.
Jenna: You know the subject of a test is a
big issue in the biggest fight in the sport, Pacquiao vs. Mayweather,
what do you think about that?
Pascal: Right now I don’t know if that fights going to happen one day, because
Bradley just beat Pacquiao, so that’s going to be hard to fake, right
now Floyd is P4P, he proved to everyone he is clean, he’s taking the
test, he took the test, he take the test, and any fighter will take the
test, that’s model, a real model, that’s a real HOF, because he has
nothing to hide, and that’s why he is taking the test.
Jenna: Another thing interesting in the
boxing scene, which I really want to get your views on, is Lucian Bute
lost too Carl Froch not long back, you definitely have interest in Carl
yourself, just curious what you thought about that fight?
Pascal: This is boxing, you win some you lose
some, and this is boxing. Bute is a good fighter, and right now we’re
going to see if Lucian can be great, and can come back stronger, and
we’re going to be able to say he is going to be great; but right now he
lost, which is not a big deal, because like I said you win some and you
lose some, but if he’s tough mentally he is going to come back stronger.
Jenna: Jean, with the Olympics starting and
you having been a 2004 representative of Canada, can you tell the people
listening out there what It take to be an Olympian?
Pascal: Honestly guys, it's really simple, hark work, dedication,
discipline, and passion. With those 4 keys anything is possible in
Jenna: Ok, well I just have a few
more questions for you Jean, and this one is about Tavoris Cloud. He is
sitting out there. He’s waiting. He wants to fight you. Is there
anything you want you want to say to him?
Pascal: I heard Cloud said that he doesn’t
believe my hand injury is real, he feels that I’m unprepared for this
fight. The only thing that I can tell him is ‘Look, I was a champion,
I’m a former champion, but I’m still champion in my mind. Every fight I
came fully prepared. I’m not scared of Tavoris Cloud. He said I might
be scared of him. Like, listen son, I fought Bernard Hopkins twice. I
did 24 rounds with Hopkins, 11 rounds with Dawson, so I’m not going to
be scared of Tavoris Cloud.’ Of course, he’s a great boxer; he’s a good
boxer and has skill. But I aren’t scared of no body, Tavoris Cloud
hasn’t got shit on me.
Jenna: To the fans out there, the ones that want to see your fight, is there anything you want to say to them?
Guys, I’m really sorry that I postponed the fight, but I think that was
the best decision. I postponed the fight for you guys, because I
respect you, and it wasn’t fair to go in the fight and know that I’m not
ready. You guys paid a good price to go and see me perform at my
highest level. That’s what I’m going to bring for you to my next fight.
I would like to send a special thanks to Ashley, Tim and Jay who helped bring this interview to the boxing readers.
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